Okay, so.

[wallwalker]

More coherent people than I have already spoken about the delicious changes. Here's a linkspam that summarizes a lot of things.

I had wanted an account some time ago to keep track of links, and after sidequest was created I wanted to make an account to keep track of prompts. Not now, though. I have no idea who their target demographic is at this point - and frankly, I'd like to know who they're hoping to attract with their new service! - but I am very obviously not in it.

Has anyone here used Pinboard for any length of time? I would like to know, since each account requires a small fee to sign up, how easy it is to separate links into different topics that can be browsed separately. I don't want to sign up and add links that are of personal interest to me if I have to turn around and buy a new account just to be able to link sidequest prompts separately. I would have to choose one or the other. Probably fannish things, because honestly? I don't really share links to random things that often, and I could probably just create a post here for that purpose and keep it updated on its irregular basis, and be fine with it. (And yes, I know it's just under ten dollars, but frankly, that's a lot of money right now. Things will be better at the beginning of October! I just need to be careful for now.)

Comments

[crankyoldman]

I had to move my linklist that I kept for sources at work (mostly for my interns) to Diigo. Not sure if that would help in your case or not, as I merely moved shit there and promptly forgot about it.

~Liz

[crankyoldman]

Oh wait, you have stuff on Diigo in your linkspam NEVERMIND. XD

[wallwalker]

Yes, Diigo was a consideration of mine at first. It might still have been for non-fandom-related stuff - resources that I use for researching original fiction, interesting articles, that sort of thing - except that they apparently have algorithms that filter out anything that isn't "family-friendly." And aside from the issue of problematic censorship that I really don't appreciate, none of the sites I've used that have had filtering/recommendation algorithms have been accurate. I would really rather not deal with that.

Pinboard, so far, is looking like a good option - I just want to find out if "sub-accounts" are an option, once one has paid for the service. Because really, I'd rather have fandom-related things in subaccounts, separate from my main non-fandom things. That goes double for anything relating to communities, just to make it easier to sort and browse for people who don't care about my personal stuff and are just using it to sort community links. (Also I'm inclined to agree with owlmoose (among others) on fandom-related bookmarking, that if we really want a service that will cater to fandom, then people who care about fandom need to create it, and own the servers that it is on. But since such a service doesn't exist yet....)

[stealth_noodle]

I've used Pinboard for a a little while (and will be using it a lot more now that I have rage-deleted my Delicious account), and it doesn't support tag bundles. You can browse by combinations of tags, so if you tagged everything from sidequest, you could link to that and then let people drill down by adding fandom, character, or whatever tags to the display. It may also be a little unintuitive for users, since clicking a tag's name (rather than the + sign next to it) will display links tagged only with the new tag rather than adding it to the original one.

But the developer of Pinboard is asking what features fannish types consider must-haves (which YAY), so we may see them or something similar implemented in the future.

[wallwalker]

It's nice that the creator is listening to fannish types! (Of course, considering how many of them are giving up on Delicious right now and are willing to pay for a service that fits their needs, it's mostly good business sense. XD)

We'll have to see how it works out - I might have to ask about subaccounts. Maybe allow two or three per main account, so that the same user can use the same service for different/separate purposes? They would all be tied to the same base password/email combo, so in order to share them, that would have to be shared too. Which would not be ideal for a situation where multiple people would share a single account to archive various fannish things, but it would help the single person who has separate interests and wants to keep them separate. I will find this suggestion box and ask for that.

[stealth_noodle]

The suggestion box is actually a Google Doc of awesome. I'm not sure if someone's already suggested something similar in there, since I was busy being blown away by how much is going on.

[wallwalker]

I've had a few looks at it!

And I suggested subaccounts, which do not seem to be going over well. I want to edit and say that what I really want, in my little black heart, is to be able to share, say, my bookmarked nutrition articles with a friend from high school or whatever, without said friend finding out that I like fic about people who bang aliens, and if there's another way to do that, I'm all for it! But I can't right now, because every time I try to load the article it locks up.

And now it's looking like I'm going to have to reboot. Why does GDocs always screw up whatever computer I'm using to access it? >_>

[stealth_noodle]

I can't even view the doc on my netbook anymore without crashing Chrome, so I have to make it to the end. I wonder if the Pinboard developer is totally overwhelmed yet. :P

A subaccount-like feature would be pretty neat, because sometimes I get tired of maintaining separate accounts (or making everything private) to keep my tastes in porn from intersecting with my RL acquaintances.

[wallwalker]

Tiered security (ability to mark links as network-only) seems to be the closest we're getting, which... is reasonable, I suppose. Subaccounts do have a fairly high potential for abuse. Still a little disappointing, though.

I went ahead and signed up - what's your username? (I'm still trying to figure out who the mystery person following me is - when I click on the link to show the name, it says it's "No one." Very odd.)

[stealth_noodle]

Your mystery person remains a mystery, alas; all my bookmarks somehow imported as private (I am 98% certain this is Delicious's fault), so I've been putting off adding anyone until I've sorted out making the right links public again. (I can PM you once I do; it's under one of the usernames I also use for RL stuff, so I try to avoid linking it to my fannish ID anywhere that Google might be peeking.)